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		<title>By: jritch</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 01:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John posted this great comment a few days ago but Intense Debate screwed it up so I&#039;m reposting his comment here, 
 
&quot;Outsourcing our attention to drugs like Ritalin and Adderal turns us into robots,&quot; 
 
Interesting. The question though, is that a bad thing? Like in Dune the guys that are super developed logical think tanks, that take a drug to obtain higher levels of logic capacity. 
 
I agree that the using it as a crutch is poor... like weakness oriented (quick fix) vs developing myself to focus the way I want to when I want. But... who knows, maybe supplementing later on? A pill you would take to become enlightened... would you want to? The question that comes up as I write is, are these things more than just the body. Are they more in the spirit realm? They do say though, as the body so the mind, and as the mind so the body... so maybe if you took a pill that created the effects of enlightenment... it would have the same effect on the soul/mind/spirit? 
 
On the emotional side of things, I know that utilitarian philosophers are crazy left minded, while at the same time extremely ethical. I don&#039;t think that the emotional leaning necessarily means that you are ethical. 
 
The book Liars Poker kind of outlines the culture created in wall street that lead us to where we are, and they were all very very emotional, just horribly ethically and morally bound. Basically they didn&#039;t think there was anything outside of themselves.. like no empathy, and very low level consciousness as according to Ken Wilber. Red level or something. 
 
I definitely hear you on the information overload... and thats interesting on the email, and doing a stress inducing pattern as you read. 
 
Dude, your post has a beard. I laughed when I saw it. 
 
Great article. 
John 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John posted this great comment a few days ago but Intense Debate screwed it up so I&#039;m reposting his comment here, </p>
<p>&quot;Outsourcing our attention to drugs like Ritalin and Adderal turns us into robots,&quot; </p>
<p>Interesting. The question though, is that a bad thing? Like in Dune the guys that are super developed logical think tanks, that take a drug to obtain higher levels of logic capacity. </p>
<p>I agree that the using it as a crutch is poor&#8230; like weakness oriented (quick fix) vs developing myself to focus the way I want to when I want. But&#8230; who knows, maybe supplementing later on? A pill you would take to become enlightened&#8230; would you want to? The question that comes up as I write is, are these things more than just the body. Are they more in the spirit realm? They do say though, as the body so the mind, and as the mind so the body&#8230; so maybe if you took a pill that created the effects of enlightenment&#8230; it would have the same effect on the soul/mind/spirit? </p>
<p>On the emotional side of things, I know that utilitarian philosophers are crazy left minded, while at the same time extremely ethical. I don&#039;t think that the emotional leaning necessarily means that you are ethical. </p>
<p>The book Liars Poker kind of outlines the culture created in wall street that lead us to where we are, and they were all very very emotional, just horribly ethically and morally bound. Basically they didn&#039;t think there was anything outside of themselves.. like no empathy, and very low level consciousness as according to Ken Wilber. Red level or something. </p>
<p>I definitely hear you on the information overload&#8230; and thats interesting on the email, and doing a stress inducing pattern as you read. </p>
<p>Dude, your post has a beard. I laughed when I saw it. </p>
<p>Great article.<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Outsourcing our attention to drugs like Ritalin and Adderal turns us into robots,&quot;

Interesting. The question though, is that a bad thing? Like in Dune the guys that are super developed logical think tanks, that take a drug to obtain higher levels of logic capacity.

I agree that the using it as a crutch is poor... like weakness oriented (quick fix) vs developing myself to focus the way I want to when I want. But... who knows, maybe supplementing later on? A pill you would take to become enlightened... would you want to? The question that comes up as I write is, are these things more than just the body. Are they more in the spirit realm? They do say though, as the body so the mind, and as the mind so the body... so maybe if you took a pill that created the effects of enlightenment... it would have the same effect on the soul/mind/spirit?

On the emotional side of things, I know that utilitarian philosophers are crazy left minded, while at the same time extremely ethical. I don&#039;t think that the emotional leaning necessarily means that you are ethical.

The book Liars Poker kind of outlines the culture created in wall street that lead us to where we are, and they were all very very emotional, just horribly ethically and morally bound. Basically they didn&#039;t think there was anything outside of themselves.. like no empathy, and very low level consciousness as according to Ken Wilber. Red level or something.

I definitely hear you on the information overload... and thats interesting on the email, and doing a stress inducing pattern as you read.

Dude, your post has a beard. I laughed when I saw it.

Great article.
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Outsourcing our attention to drugs like Ritalin and Adderal turns us into robots,&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting. The question though, is that a bad thing? Like in Dune the guys that are super developed logical think tanks, that take a drug to obtain higher levels of logic capacity.</p>
<p>I agree that the using it as a crutch is poor&#8230; like weakness oriented (quick fix) vs developing myself to focus the way I want to when I want. But&#8230; who knows, maybe supplementing later on? A pill you would take to become enlightened&#8230; would you want to? The question that comes up as I write is, are these things more than just the body. Are they more in the spirit realm? They do say though, as the body so the mind, and as the mind so the body&#8230; so maybe if you took a pill that created the effects of enlightenment&#8230; it would have the same effect on the soul/mind/spirit?</p>
<p>On the emotional side of things, I know that utilitarian philosophers are crazy left minded, while at the same time extremely ethical. I don&#8217;t think that the emotional leaning necessarily means that you are ethical.</p>
<p>The book Liars Poker kind of outlines the culture created in wall street that lead us to where we are, and they were all very very emotional, just horribly ethically and morally bound. Basically they didn&#8217;t think there was anything outside of themselves.. like no empathy, and very low level consciousness as according to Ken Wilber. Red level or something.</p>
<p>I definitely hear you on the information overload&#8230; and thats interesting on the email, and doing a stress inducing pattern as you read.</p>
<p>Dude, your post has a beard. I laughed when I saw it.</p>
<p>Great article.<br />
John</p>
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